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Headword: *kleisqe/nhn o(rw=
Adler number: kappa,1756
Translated headword: I see Kleisthenes, I see Clisthenes
Vetting Status: high
Aristophanes [sc. says this]. This man would always shave. So [the phrase] is said about those who always shave. He was [the son] of Sibyrtios; and he did this to look young always.[1] Straton used to do the same.[2] "O hot-tempered shaven arsehole! You come to us, you ape, as a eunuch, yet with such a beard rigged up? And who might this one be? Isn't it Straton?"[3]
Greek Original:
*kleisqe/nhn o(rw=: *)aristofa/nhs. ou(=tos a)ei\ e)cura=to. le/getai ou)=n e)pi\ tw=n a)ei\ curwme/nwn. h)=n de\ *siburti/ou: kai\ tou=to e)/pratte dia\ to\ ne/os fai/nesqai a)ei/. tou=to e)/pratte kai\ *stra/twn. w)= qermo/boulon prwkto\n e)curhme/ne, toio/nde dh/, pi/qhke, to\n pw/gwn' e)/xwn eu)nou=xos h(mi=n h)=lqes e)skeuasme/nos; o(di\ de\ ti/s pot' e)sti/n; ou) dh/pou *stra/twn;
For this Kleisthenes (not the constitutional reformer) see in full under kappa 1757.
[1] Based on the scholia to Aristophanes, Acharnians 118, though only the Suda seeks to elevate it to a proverbial saying. The headword phrase is extrapolated by the Suda from the passage in Aristophanes (see below).
[2] As noted in sigma 1186, with reference to the following passage.
[3] Aristophanes, Acharnians 119-122. (Material copied to sigma 1186.) The preceding verses are "And out of these eunuchs, I know who this other one is: Kleisthenes, son of Sibyrtios". The invective is presumed to be adapted from Archilochus fr.187 West "with such an arse (pugh/n)", substituted with "chin = beard" (pw/gwn').
Keywords: biography; comedy; daily life; ethics; gender and sexuality; imagery; poetry
Translated by: Nick Nicholas on 30 November 2008@23:56:46.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (more keywords; tweaks and cosmetics) on 1 December 2008@03:38:55.
David Whitehead on 1 March 2013@05:27:19.
David Whitehead (another x-ref) on 10 February 2014@05:15:57.


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