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Headword: Κλεισθένην ὁρῶ
Adler number: kappa,1756
Translated headword: I see Kleisthenes, I see Clisthenes
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
Aristophanes [sc. says this]. This man would always shave. So [the phrase] is said about those who always shave. He was [the son] of Sibyrtios; and he did this to look young always.[1] Straton used to do the same.[2] "O hot-tempered shaven arsehole! You come to us, you ape, as a eunuch, yet with such a beard rigged up? And who might this one be? Isn't it Straton?"[3]
Greek Original:
Κλεισθένην ὁρῶ: Ἀριστοφάνης. οὗτος ἀεὶ ἐξυρᾶτο. λέγεται οὖν ἐπὶ τῶν ἀεὶ ξυρωμένων. ἦν δὲ Σιβυρτίου: καὶ τοῦτο ἔπραττε διὰ τὸ νέος φαίνεσθαι ἀεί. τοῦτο ἔπραττε καὶ Στράτων. ὦ θερμόβουλον πρωκτὸν ἐξυρημένε, τοιόνδε δή, πίθηκε, τὸν πώγων' ἔχων εὐνοῦχος ἡμῖν ἦλθες ἐσκευασμένος; ὁδὶ δὲ τίς ποτ' ἐστίν; οὐ δήπου Στράτων;
Notes:
For this Kleisthenes (not the constitutional reformer) see in full under kappa 1757.
[1] Based on the scholia to Aristophanes, Acharnians 118, though only the Suda seeks to elevate it to a proverbial saying. The headword phrase is extrapolated by the Suda from the passage in Aristophanes (see below).
[2] As noted in sigma 1186, with reference to the following passage.
[3] Aristophanes, Acharnians 119-122. (Material copied to sigma 1186.) The preceding verses are "And out of these eunuchs, I know who this other one is: Kleisthenes, son of Sibyrtios". The invective is presumed to be adapted from Archilochus fr.187 West "with such an arse (πυγήν )", substituted with "chin = beard" (πώγων' ).
Keywords: biography; comedy; daily life; ethics; gender and sexuality; imagery; poetry
Translated by: Nick Nicholas on 30 November 2008@23:56:46.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (more keywords; tweaks and cosmetics) on 1 December 2008@03:38:55.
David Whitehead on 1 March 2013@05:27:19.
David Whitehead (another x-ref) on 10 February 2014@05:15:57.

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