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Headword: Κραμβοτάτου
Adler number: kappa,2319
Translated headword: loudest, quite loud, very loud
Vetting Status: high
[Meaning] most/very sweet, most/very dry. Aristophanes made a joke from the idea of the vegetable; for Crates was an improviser in his plays.[1] Or [meaning] air-dried; or very useful.[2]
Greek Original:
Κραμβοτάτου: ἡδυτάτου, ξηροτάτου. ἔπαιξε δὲ Ἀριστοφάνης ἀπὸ τῆς τοῦ λαχάνου ἐπινοίας: αὐτοσχέδιος γὰρ ἦν περὶ τὰ δράματα Κράτης. ἢ τὸ καπυρόν: ἢ τὸ χρηστότατον.
[1] From the scholia to Aristophanes, Knights 539; see already under kappa 2318. Crates (kappa 2339) is the subject of the verse involved: "kneading most ingenious notions from a krambotaton mouth". See further, next note.
[2] "Air-dried" is from Hesychius; "useful" is from the scholia, which still explain this as a pun from "cabbage", and is unlikely to display deep understanding of the text.
The headword κραμβοτάτου is obscure, evidently. As stated, it is glossed in Hesychius as καπυρός "air-dried" in this passage (note its secondary meaning "blight in grapes" in Theophrastus); κραμβαλέος in Athenaeus means the same. This accounts for the gloss ξηροτάτου "driest". LSJ suggests "loud", based on Hesychius' gloss of κραμβός as "dried and parched" laughter; they add χαραμβαλιαστύς "loud laughter" in Hesychius (which they emend as κραμβαλιαστύς ). The passages in Hesychius alone do not seem to warrant this extension, but καπυρός is also used to mean "loud" or "clear-sounding" (LSJ s.v. II), via "crisp" or "crackling", and Theocritus, Idylls 7.37 refers to the καπυρός (clear-sounding) mouth of the Muses. Bekker suggests instead that the allusion may be to Crates as a drunkard, given how cabbage was eaten to prevent inebriation (kappa 2318).
Keywords: biography; botany; comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; food; imagery
Translated by: Nick Nicholas on 9 March 2009@02:33:31.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (another x-ref; more keywords; tweaks and cosmetics) on 9 March 2009@04:46:59.
David Whitehead on 17 March 2013@05:20:43.
Catharine Roth (coding) on 28 April 2015@01:47:55.


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