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Headword: Kôphoteros tou Torôneos limenos
Adler number: kappa,2310
Translated headword: deafer than Torone's harbour
Vetting Status: high
At Torone in Thrace[1] there is a certain harbour called 'deaf'.[2]
The proverb is used because at Torone in Thrace the harbour's approaches from the open sea are narrow and long, such that those in it cannot hear the sound of the sea.[3]
You are farting at a deaf man, [a saying] applied to incompetents.[4]
Greek Original:
Kôphoteros tou Torôneos limenos: peri Torônên tês Thraikês kaleitai tis kôphos limên. eirêtai de hê paroimia, paroson en Torônêi tês Thraikês limên stenas echei kai makras tas apo tou pelagous katarseis, hôs mê akouesthai tois en autôi ton tês thalattês êchon. Para kôphôi perdeis, epi tôn adunatôn.
[1] See generally tau 798.
[2] Likewise in Photius (Lexicon kappa1338 Theodoridis), and similarly in several of the paroemiographers; see further below. Torone's Kophos harbour (sic: upper-case) is mentioned by e.g. Thucydides 5.2.2 (as conventionally emended) and Strabo 7 fr.32; and the headword phrase itself is believed to come from Attic comedy (Fragmenta adespota 943 K.-A.).
[3] Likewise Zenobius 4.68.
[4] cf. pi 371.
Keywords: comedy; daily life; geography; historiography; imagery; medicine; proverbs
Translated by: David Whitehead on 11 October 2002@04:25:55.
Vetted by:
Catharine Roth (cosmetics) on 11 October 2002@19:21:33.
David Whitehead (another keyword) on 11 July 2004@09:48:47.
David Whitehead (augmented notes and kerywords) on 15 March 2013@09:33:34.
David Whitehead on 2 May 2016@07:11:45.


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