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Headword: Autothen
Adler number: alpha,4493
Translated headword: from this very place, from that very place
Vetting Status: high
Meaning from here/hence/thence. "There is no way they will not go thither from this very place." [So says] Aristophanes in Acharnians.[1]
And elsewhere: "yet it was necessary to set out from that very place, as they were, to face the enemy and to take the outcome of the war into their own hands."[2]
Or 'from this very place' meaning from home, from within.
"But he started out on the course to injustice from this very place."[3]
And Josephus [writes]: "to send bribes to the king from that very place."[4] Meaning from home.
Or, 'from that very place' [meaning] from there, or from the present time.
"The Romans, from that very point [in time] were already hoping to capture the encampment."[5] Meaning 'immediately.'
And Thucydides [writes]: "It was winter, and the Athenians from that very place [in time] did not yet think it was a good idea to carry on the war."[6]
Greek Original:
Autothen: anti tou enteuthen. ouk esth' hopôs ouk eisin enthad' autothen. Aristophanês Acharneusi. kai authis: alla chrênai par' autothen, hôs echousin, antepexelthontas en chersi stêsasthai to telos tou polemou. ê Autothen, anti tou oikothen, endothen. ho de autothen pros to adikein hôrmêtai. kai Iôsêpos: dôra de autothen pempein tôi basilei. anti tou oikothen. ê Autothen, ekeithen. ê apo tou parontos chronou. hoi de Rhômaioi autothen elpisantes êdê tên parembolên hairêsein. anti tou ek parachrêma. kai Thoukudidês: cheimôn ên, kai tois Athênaiois ton polemon autothen poieisthai oupô edokei.
[1] Aristophanes, Acharnians 116, with scholion.
[2] Arrian, fragmenta incerta 4 Roos-Wirth; cf. pi 481.
[3] Quotation not identified by Adler but identifiable via the TLG as Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 2.10.1.
[4] Josephus, Jewish Antiquities 12.199.
[5] Quotation unidentifiable. (Adler notes the attribution to Polybius by 'Dr.' = A.B. Drachmann, 1860-1935.)
[6] Thucydides 6.71.2.
Keywords: biography; comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; economics; ethics; historiography; history; military affairs; philosophy
Translated by: William Hutton on 21 March 2002@22:46:42.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (added notes and keywords; cosmetics) on 10 April 2002@11:11:16.
David Whitehead (cosmetics) on 28 August 2002@05:39:25.
David Whitehead (more keywords; cosmetics) on 20 May 2007@04:07:46.
David Whitehead (augmented notes, inc. a source identification; another keyword; tweaks and cosmetics) on 3 May 2012@05:00:00.
David Whitehead (coding) on 11 September 2015@03:56:04.
David Whitehead (modified n.5, removing my error) on 11 September 2015@10:49:52.


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