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Headword: Atopias pleôn pragma
Adler number: alpha,4374
Translated headword: a matter full of absurdity
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
Meaning [full of] a marvel.[1]
"With Chosroes enticing him to come to this point of absurdity."[2]
Meaning of irrationality, of thoughtlessness.
And elsewhere: "someone would wonder at the absurdity of the man, who at any rate, aside from other things, has dared to say even these things."[3]
And elsewhere: "when water appeared, it was, to him who had not discovered it, equally [produced] by absurdity."[4] That is, [by] wickedness.
Also [sc. attested is the related adjective] atopon ["absurd"] meaning irrational, amazing, paradoxical, strange, wicked, knavish; and that which does not have a place. Also that which is unbearable, such as not to be able to be pinned down.[5]
Aristophanes [says]: "some strange desire presses upon me, which has worn away at me."[6]
And elsewhere: "[he] having suspected some absurdity."[7]
Greek Original:
Atopias pleôn pragma: anti tou thaumatos. deleasantos auton es touto atopias elthein Chosroou. anti tou alogias, aboulias. kai authis: thaumasai an tis tên atopian tou andros, hos ge chôris allôn tetolmêke kai tauta legein. kai authis: epei de anephanê hudôr, exisou tôi mê heurethenti archên hupo atopias ên. toutesti kakias. kai Atopon anti tou alogon, thaumasion, paradoxon, xenon, kakon, mochthêron: kai ho mê echei topon. kai to anupomonêton, hoion ho mê esti topasai. Aristophanês: atopos d' enkeitai moi tis pothos, hos me diaknaisas echei. kai authis: atopian hupotopasas tina.
Notes:
[1] Phrynichus, Praeparatio sophistica fr.273 (again at nu 222). The phrase "full of absurdity" (without "a matter") comes from Aristophanes, Frogs 1372, where "of a marvel" is a scholiast's gloss.
[2] Part of Menander Protector fr. 9.1 Blockley.
[3] Quotation unidentifiable
[4] Cassius Dio 75.2.2.
[5] cf. the scholia to Plato, Phaedo 60B (and to Republic 405D), where this word occurs.
[6] Aristophanes, Ecclesiazusae 956-7 (web address 1 below); cf. delta 586.
[7] Quotation unidentifiable.
Associated internet address:
Web address 1
Keywords: biography; comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; historiography; history; philosophy
Translated by: Jennifer Benedict on 9 June 2002@11:29:26.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (augmented notes and keywords; cosmetics) on 10 June 2002@05:09:22.
David Whitehead (modified translation of the Aristophanes passage) on 6 July 2003@06:54:38.
David Whitehead (more keywords; tweaks) on 4 March 2011@09:44:58.
David Whitehead (updated a reference) on 3 January 2012@05:01:45.
David Whitehead on 29 April 2012@04:26:33.
David Whitehead on 10 September 2015@07:30:42.
Catharine Roth (tweaked link) on 13 December 2015@22:24:53.

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