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Headword: Οὐκ ἐτὸς ἀφ' ἡμῶν εἰσιν αἱ τραγῳδίαι: οὐδὲν γάρ εἰσι πλὴν Ποσειδῶν καὶ σκάφη
Adler number: omicron,890
Translated headword: no wonder tragedies [come] from us for they are nothing but Poseidon and a boat
Vetting Status: high
A proverbial phrase in reference to those involved in the same thing but content to think of nothing else. The sense [is]: we [sc. women] are nothing but sex and childbirth. For Poseidon copulated with Tyro and produced Neleus and Pelias.
Greek Original:
Οὐκ ἐτὸς ἀφ' ἡμῶν εἰσιν αἱ τραγῳδίαι: οὐδὲν γάρ εἰσι πλὴν Ποσειδῶν καὶ σκάφη: παροιμία ἐπὶ τῶν ἐγκυλινδουμένων τῷ αὐτῷ πράγματι, ἄλλο δὲ μηδὲν νοεῖν ἀνεχομένων. ὁ δὲ νοῦς: οὐδὲν ἐσμὲν εἰ μὴ συνουσιάζειν καὶ τίκτειν. ὁ γὰρ Ποσειδῶν ἐμίγη τῇ Τυροῖ καὶ ἐγέννησε Νηλέα καὶ Πελίαν.
Aristophanes, Lysistrata 138-9 (with 'we' for the Suda's 'they'), with scholion. See web address 1.
In the myth in question, the subject of Sophocles' lost Tyro (and already in Homer, Odyssey 11.235-259), Poseidon seduced Tyro by taking on the form of her lover, the river Enipeus; their twin sons were then exposed in a boat.
For 'no wonder', see already omicron 889.
Associated internet address:
Web address 1
Keywords: children; comedy; definition; gender and sexuality; mythology; proverbs; tragedy; women
Translated by: David Whitehead on 28 May 2010@09:03:10.
Vetted by:
Catharine Roth (added link, set status) on 29 May 2010@20:20:48.
David Whitehead (augmented note; more keywords) on 30 May 2010@04:41:59.
David Whitehead on 1 August 2013@05:36:22.
Catharine Roth (coding) on 10 August 2013@19:04:14.


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