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Headword: Palaigenes
Adler number: pi,54
Translated headword: born long ago, full of years
Vetting Status: high
[Meaning] most venerable.[1]
Aristophanes [writes]: "hail, o veteran born long ago."[2] He did not address [him] as someone revered because of the [passage of] time; for they used to call simpletons 'oldies' and 'ancients'. Meaning [hail, o] fool. And Euripides [writes]: "you have said [something] ancient."[3] Meaning simple-minded. "For I do not wish to do the body a service".[4]
[Note] that the ancient [manuscript] was found in a jar. And see in the [entry on] Origen.[5]
Greek Original:
Palaigenes: presbutaton. Aristophanês: chair', ô presbuta palaigenes. ouch hôs semnon tina prosêgoreuse dia ton chronon: tous gar euêtheis archaious kai palaious elegon. anti tou anoête. kai Euripidês: archaion eirêkas. anti tou euêthes. euergetêsai gar to sôm' ou boulomai. hoti hê palaia en pithôi heurethê. kai zêtei en tôi Ôrigenês.
Vocative singular (of this adjective connected with pi 53 and pi 58).
[1] cf. the scholia to Homer, Iliad 17.561, where Menelaus addresses Phoenix [Author, Myth] thus (web address 1).
[2] Aristophanes, Clouds 358 (which actually has palaiogene/s: web address 2), followed by comment from the scholia there. With the latter cf. already alpha 4072 and alpha 4075.
[3] Euripides fr. 1088.
[4] Not regarded as part of the Euripides quotation; rather, Tragica adespota fr. 564a.
[5] omega 182.
Associated internet addresses:
Web address 1,
Web address 2
Keywords: comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; epic; ethics; tragedy
Translated by: David Whitehead on 12 August 2010@06:24:11.
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Catharine Roth (added links, set status) on 12 August 2010@14:53:24.
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