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Headword: Oinos aneu paidôn
Adler number: omicroniota,134
Translated headword: wine without children
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
Two proverbs: one [is] "wine and truth", the other "wine and children [are] true". It is used in reference to those who are being ingenuous and speaking the truth.[1]
Interpretation of Dreams of Nikephoros the patriarch:[2] "Wine emptied from vessels brings an end to pains. Foul wine makes many pains plain. If you partake of wine expect terrible quarrels."
Greek Original:
Oinos aneu paidôn: duo paroimiai, hê men oinos kai alêtheia, hê d' oinos kai paides alêtheis. lambanetai epi tôn haploïzomenôn kai tên alêtheian legontôn. lusis oneirôn Nikêphorou patriarchou: oinos kenôtheis angeiôn pauei lupas. oinos rhupôdês ektranoi pollas lupas. oinou metaschôn prosdoka deinas machas.
Notes:
[1] Likewise in Photius, Lexicon omicron128 Theodoridis, and cf. the scholia to Plato, Symposium 217E, where Alkibiades says: to\ lego/menon, oi)=nos a)/neu te pai/dwn kai\ meta\ pai/dwn h)=n a)lhqh/s; "there is, as the proverb says, truth in wine - whether one adds 'and in children' is of no significance" (tr. W.Hamilton). The first of these is best known nowadays in its Latin form, in vino veritas (Tosi [cited under alpha 378] no.1424); and for the latter cf. our "out of the mouths of babes and sucklings".
[2] See the note to beta 351.
Keywords: children; Christianity; daily life; dreams; ethics; food; imagery; philosophy; poetry; proverbs
Translated by: William Hutton on 15 November 2000@16:03:59.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (added note and keywords; minor cosmetics) on 30 March 2001@08:06:53.
David Whitehead (another note) on 5 May 2004@09:16:01.
David Whitehead (more keywords) on 30 September 2005@08:55:38.
David Whitehead (another keyword) on 6 October 2005@10:16:31.
David Whitehead (expanded n.1) on 17 August 2012@04:06:34.
David Whitehead (expanded n.1; more keywords; tweaking) on 7 August 2013@06:31:47.
Catharine Roth (coding) on 15 December 2014@00:02:00.
Catharine Roth (cosmeticule) on 26 March 2021@00:52:18.
David Whitehead (tweaked tr) on 26 March 2021@04:49:22.

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