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Headword:
Talanton
Adler number: tau,33
Translated headword: talent, scale
Vetting Status: high
Translation: It means many things: either the largest unit of gold and silver, in accordance with which connotation
Demosthenes says, "fifty
ta/lanta [sc. talents]";[1] or a certain name for a balance, as
Aristophanes [says], "but will musical skill really be judged by a
ta/lanton [sc. a scale]";[2] also the Homeric [phrase] "father [Zeus] set up golden
ta/lanta"[3] [sc. scales]. The third connotation is a weight. The fourth a certain name for quantity, as also 'much-talented', [meaning] a rich person. Also the Homeric [phrase] "two talents of gold lay in the middle".[4] Also "two-talent" and "three-talent" and "half-talent" are attested. Another ancient usage is that of 'third half-talent' and 'fifth half-talent' and 'seventh half-talent'. The third half-talent is two and a half talents, the fifth half-talent is four and a half, and the seventh half-talent is six and a half. Generally, when someone adds to the half talent the derivative form of any number, the number that precedes that one will apply to the talents; for instance, if it is the eighth [half-talent], it is seven [talents]; if it is the ninth, it is eight, with the half [talent] reckoned in, of course. The ancients were also fond of calling one and a half talents 'three half-talents', as also [they used to call] one and a half m[i]nas 'three half-m[i]nas'.
Greek Original:Talanton: polla men sêmainei: ê gar to megiston chrusiou kai arguriou meros: kath' ho sêmainomenon Dêmosthenês phêsi: pentêkonta talanta. ê stathmou ti onoma: hôsper Aristophanês: all' ê talantôi mousikê krithêsetai. kai Homêrikon: chruseia patêr etitaine talanta. triton sêmainomenon hê rhopê: tetarton arithmou ti onoma: hôs kai polutalantos, ho plousios. kai to Homêrikon: keito d' ar' en messoisi duo chrusoio talanta. kai ditalanton de kai tritalanton kai hêmitalanton legetai. archaia de hê chrêsis kai hê tou triton hêmitalanton kai pempton hêmitalanton kai hebdomon hêmitalanton. esti de to men triton hêmitalanton duo hêmisu talanta, to de pempton hêmitalanton tessara hêmisu kai to hebdomon hêmitalanton hex hêmisu. kai holôs, hou tinos arithmou parônumôi merei eponomasei tis to hêmitalanton, toutou ho proêgoumenos arithmos epharmosei tois talantois: hoion, an men ogdoon, hepta: an de ennaton, oktô: sunarithmoumenou dêlonoti kai tou hêmisu. philon de tois archaiois kai to hen hêmisu talanton tria hêmitalanta legein: hôs kai tria hêmimnaia, tên mian hêmisu mnan.
Notes:
=
Synagoge tau12,
Photius tau20 Theodoridis,
Etymologicum Magnum 744.18-37. See also
tau 34.
[1] This first part of the entry is based on
Pollux (9.52), who ascribes to
Demosthenes not
penth/konta ta/lanta ('fifty talents') but
penthkontotalanti/a, a compound noun otherwise unattested meaning 'a sum of fifty talents' (
Demosthenes fr. 13.43 Baiter-Sauppe).
Demosthenes does use the phrase 'fifty talents' fairly frequently, but the rest of the context here suggests that that is merely coincidence.
[2]
Aristophanes,
Frogs 797.
[3]
Homer,
Iliad 8.69.
[4]
Homer,
Iliad 18.507.
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Translated by: William Hutton on 30 January 2014@22:10:34.
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