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Headword: Οὔτε σὺν πανωλέθροισιν, οὐδ' ἄνευ πανωλέθρων
Adler number: omicron,969
Translated headword: neither with utter ruin nor without utter ruin
Vetting Status: high
A proverb. "Women [are an] evil; but nevertheless, o demesmen, it is not possible to find a household without evil."[1] And Aristophanes [writes]: "and that saying is rightly said and not badly, 'neither with utter ruin etc.'"
Greek Original:
Οὔτε σὺν πανωλέθροισιν, οὐδ' ἄνευ πανωλέθρων: παροιμία. κακὸν γυναῖκες: ἀλλ' ὅμως, ὦ δημόται, οὐκ ἔστιν εὑρεῖν οἰκίαν ἄνευ κακοῦ. καὶ Ἀριστοφάνης: κἄστ' ἐκεῖνο τοὖπος ὀρθῶς κοὐ κακῶς εἰρημένον, οὔτε σὺν πανωλέθροισι, καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς.
Aristophanes, Lysistrata 1038-9 (web address 1), with scholion; cf. tau 829.
[1] (?)Susarion fr. 1 Kock (and Kassel-Austin); also fr. 1 West; and S.D. Olson, Broken Laughter I1 (= pp.321 with 328-330).
Associated internet address:
Web address 1
Keywords: comedy; daily life; ethics; poetry; proverbs; women
Translated by: Catharine Roth on 26 July 2010@00:30:30.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (tweaks and cosmetics) on 27 July 2010@03:18:24.
David Whitehead on 2 August 2013@04:38:18.
David Whitehead (expanded n.1) on 24 December 2014@08:35:25.


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