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Headword: Οὐ γὰρ
Adler number: omicron,768
Translated headword: nay for
Vetting Status: high
Aristophanes in Clouds [sc. uses the phrase].[1] Meaning ἀλλὰ καὶ γὰρ in Attic dialect; as Callimachus [wrote]: "you hear Hipponax [say]: 'Nay, for I have come.'"[2] Meaning, for I have come [καὶ γὰρ ἥκω ]. Also in Frogs, "Nay, for" [οὐ γὰρ ἀλλά ], meaning καὶ γὰρ in Attic dialect. Meaning, for I am poorly [ἔχω γὰρ κακῶς ]. But he said, "Nay, for I am poorly"[3] [οὐ γὰρ, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἔχω ]. But the ἀλλὰ is brought in in Frogs, too: "Nay, for one must obey."[4] Meaning, for one must obey [καὶ γὰρ πειστέον ]. Never, he is saying, ought you to say, but also to give, so that I will trust you, that you give me the same report. Also in Thesmophoriazusae: "nay, for strangely how full of persons in white the assembly was to see."[5]
Greek Original:
Οὐ γὰρ: Ἀριστοφάνης Νεφέλαις. ἀντὶ τοῦ ἀλλὰ καὶ γὰρ Ἀττικῶς: ὡς Καλλίμαχος: ἀκούσαθ' Ἱππώνακτος: οὐ γὰρ ἀλλ' ἥκω. ἀντὶ τοῦ καὶ γὰρ ἥκω. καὶ ἐν Βατράχοις, οὐ γὰρ ἀλλά, ἀντὶ τοῦ καὶ γὰρ Ἀττικῶς. ἀντὶ τοῦ ἔχω γὰρ κακῶς. ὁ δὲ εἶπεν, οὐ γὰρ, ἀλλ' ἔχω κακῶς. τὸ δὲ ἀλλὰ παρέλκεται καὶ ἐν Βατράχοις: οὐ γὰρ ἀλλὰ πειστέον. ἀντὶ τοῦ καὶ γὰρ πειστέον. οὐδαμῶς, φησίν, ὀφείλεις λέγειν, ἀλλὰ καὶ διδόναι, ἵνα σοι πιστεύσω, ὅτι ἀληθῶς ἐπαγγέλλῃ μοι αὐτὰ διδόναι. καὶ ἐν Θεσμοφοριαζούσαις: οὐ γὰρ ἀλλ' ὑπερφυῶς ὡς λευκοπληθὴς ἦν ἰδεῖν ἡ ἐκκλησία.
[1] From the scholia to Aristophanes, Clouds 232, where indeed he does.
[2] Callimachus, Iambi fr. 191 Pfeiffer = Hipponax fr. 13.
[3] Aristophanes, Frogs 58 (web address 1), with scholion.
[4] Aristophanes, Frogs 498 (web address 2), with scholion.
[5] Actually Aristophanes, Ecclesiazusae 386 (web address 3); cf. sigma 727.
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Keywords: clothing; comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; poetry; politics
Translated by: Amanda Aponte on 25 October 2009@18:22:41.
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David Whitehead (augmented notes and keywords; tweaks and cosmetics) on 26 October 2009@04:42:38.
David Whitehead on 31 July 2013@03:22:32.
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