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Headword: Νοιδίων
Adler number: nu,574
Translated headword: little ideas
Vetting Status: high
[Meaning] thoughts. The diminutive "little idea" was formed from the plural noi [of nous, "mind"]. But some [sc. define it] thus: of abuses and insults [arising] from drinking wine and being drunk. Aristophanes [writes]: "I shall sprinkle everything with little reasonings, little sayings, little ideas."[1]
As a diminutive [it is] better to say noïdion, then in contracted form noidion; so too out of prochoos ["jug"] comes prochoidion ["little jug"] and out of bous/boos ["ox"] boidion ["calf"].[2]
Greek Original:
Νοιδίων: διανοημάτων. παρήγαγε δὲ ἀπὸ τοῦ πληθυντικοῦ τοῦ οἱ νοῖ τὸ νοίδιον ὑποκοριστικόν. τινὲς δὲ οὕτως, ὀνειδισμῶν καὶ λοιδοριῶν ἀπὸ τοῦ οἴνου καὶ τῆς μέθης. Ἀριστοφάνης: ἐγὼ δὲ πάντα καταπάσω βουλευματίων, γνωμιδίων, νοιδίων. κάλλιον καθ' ὑποκορισμὸν νοϊδίων εἰπεῖν, εἶτα συνῃρημένως νοιδίων: οὕτω καὶ ἐκ τοῦ πρόχοος γίνεται προχοίδιον καὶ ἐκ τοῦ βοῦς, βοὸς βοίδιον.
The headword is a genitive plural, extracted from the quotation given.
[1] An approximation of Aristophanes, Knights 99-100 (omitting the words "When I am drunk I shall sprinkle ..." etc.), with comment from the scholia there. See web address 1.
[2] These extra remarks are a marginal addition in ms M.
Associated internet address:
Web address 1
Keywords: comedy; daily life; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; food; zoology
Translated by: Robert Leigh on 28 October 2009@17:57:55.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (augmented notes; tweaks and cosmetics) on 29 October 2009@05:10:04.
David Whitehead on 18 June 2013@04:26:45.
Catharine Roth (modified link, typo) on 18 September 2013@23:47:55.


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