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Headword: *)ekei=nos
Adler number: epsilon,428
Translated headword: that
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
The poets use e)kei=nos and kei=nos [1] and au)to/s instead of a name. Aristophanes in Clouds [writes]: "but go inside, so that that man won't run into us!"[2] And Homer introduces Thetis [sc. when she is] saying, "Why has that great god summoned me?"[3] And [there is the expression] among the Pythagoreans, "He himself said it."[4]
Greek Original:
*)ekei=nos kai\ kei=nos kai\ to\ au)to\s a)nti\ o)no/matos paralamba/nousin oi( poihtai/. *)aristofa/nhs *nefe/lais: a)ll' ei)/siq', i(/na mh\ kei=nos h(mi=n e)pitu/xh|. kai\ *(/omhros th\n *qe/tin pareisa/gei le/gousan: ti/pte m' e)kei=nos a)/nwge me/gas qeo/s; kai\ to/, au)to\s e)/fa, para\ toi=s *puqagorei/ois.
Notes:
[1] *)ekei=nos stands for *e)kei-enos, from e)kei= "there" and the suffix -enos. The variant form (used in Ionic) kei=nos (cf. Doric and Aeolic kh=nos) is usually classified as pertaining to poetry, but there is not a definite polarization opposing the poetic to the prosaic use of this pronoun. In Homer and Hesiod both forms are to be found, but the shorter is more frequent. A similar use of the two can be observed in the Corpus Hippocraticum and in Herodotus, although the manuscript tradition shows much oscillation between the two forms. As for Aristophanes, sometimes the shorter one appears to be used with particular purposes, as in Peace 48 (where an Ionian is speaking), Lysistrata 795, 818 (choral sections) or Wasps 751 (tragic parody). Demosthenes and other Attic prose writers at times use kei=nos, but often they do so after a vowel or diphthong (where the initial epsilon might be elided).
[2] Aristophanes, Clouds 195 (web address 1), with scholion.
[3] Homer, Iliad 24.90 (web address 2).
[4] cf. alpha 4523.
Associated internet addresses:
Web address 1,
Web address 2
Keywords: biography; comedy; dialects, grammar, and etymology; epic; philosophy; poetry
Translated by: Catharine Roth on 5 April 2005@21:00:00.
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Antonella Ippolito (added a note; set status) on 6 April 2005@13:31:54.
Catharine Roth (cosmetics) on 6 April 2005@15:15:49.
David Whitehead (tweaks) on 11 April 2005@11:45:32.
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