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Headword: *ba/mma *kuzikhno/n
Adler number: beta,89
Translated headword: Cyzicene dye
Vetting Status: high
Attic [writers] call impure indecorum [this].[1]
And [there is] another proverb: "Sardinian dye [bamma Sardianikon], meaning may I not make you red; like, so that I do not turn you crimson. For Sardo [= Sardinia] is a very big island near Italy in which there are various vivid purple-fish.[2] So he is wanting to say, so that I will cause you to be given blows.[3]
Search in [the entry on] a)/gxousa concerning the rouge of women.[4]
Greek Original:
*ba/mma *kuzikhno/n: th\n a)ka/qarton a)sxhmosu/nhn *)attikoi\ le/gousi. kai\ e(te/ra paroimi/a: *ba/mma *sardianiko/n, a)nti\ tou= mh/ se e)ruqro\n poih/sw: oi(=on i(/na mh/ se foini/cw. nh=sos ga/r e)sti megi/sth h( *sardw\ pro\s th=| *)itali/a|, e)n h(=| gi/nontai porfu/rai dia/foroi kai\ o)cu/tatai. bou/letai ou)=n dhlou=n, i(/na mh/ se plhga\s e)ntri/yw. zh/tei e)n tw=| a)/gxousa peri\ e)ruqh/matos gunaikw=n.
[1] Likewise in Apostolius 4.73. More specifically the phrase is used -- by Aristophanes, Peace 1176 (not noted by Adler) -- to mean cowardice (web address 1).
[2] Or dyes derived from these fish.
[3] From the scholia to Aristophanes, Acharnians 112 (web address 2), where the featured phrase occurs; cf. iota 363, sigma 130. For the idiom plhga\s e)ntri/bein or e)ntri/besqai, normally with the dative, see LSJ s.v. e)ntri/bw.
[4] alpha 416.
Associated internet addresses:
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Keywords: clothing; comedy; daily life; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; ethics; gender and sexuality; geography; proverbs; trade and manufacture; women
Translated by: Jennifer Benedict on 13 June 2002@20:49:01.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (modified translation; augmented notes and keywords; cosmetics) on 14 June 2002@03:09:36.
David Whitehead (corrected an error spotted by Nicholas Fincher) on 17 September 2004@08:12:13.
Catharine Roth (added betacode) on 28 November 2004@22:54:27.
David Whitehead (modified tr; augmented notes and keywords; cosmetics) on 21 May 2012@04:54:25.
Catharine Roth (upgraded link) on 5 June 2012@17:44:52.
David Whitehead on 16 September 2015@08:24:46.
Catharine Roth (added a link) on 1 February 2016@01:13:00.
Catharine Roth (tweaked translation) on 28 January 2022@01:09:52.
Catharine Roth (added a note) on 28 January 2022@23:01:15.


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