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Headword: Οἶνος ἄνευ παίδων
Adler number: omicroniota,134
Translated headword: wine without children
Vetting Status: high
Two proverbs: one [is] "wine and truth", the other "wine and true children". It is used in reference to those who are being ingenuous and speaking the truth.[1]
Interpretation of Dreams of Nikephoros the patriarch:[2] "Wine emptied from vessels brings an end to pains. Foul wine makes many pains plain. If you partake of wine expect terrible quarrels."
Greek Original:
Οἶνος ἄνευ παίδων: δύο παροιμίαι, ἡ μὲν οἶνος καὶ ἀλήθεια, ἡ δ' οἶνος καὶ παῖδες ἀληθεῖς. λαμβάνεται ἐπὶ τῶν ἁπλοϊζομένων καὶ τὴν ἀλήθειαν λεγόντων. λύσις ὀνείρων Νικηφόρου πατριάρχου: οἶνος κενωθεὶς ἀγγείων παύει λύπας. οἶνος ῥυπώδης ἐκτρανοῖ πολλὰς λύπας. οἴνου μετασχὼν προσδόκα δεινὰς μάχας.
[1] Likewise in Photius, Lexicon omicron128 Theodoridis, and cf. the scholia to Plato, Symposium 217E, where Alkibiades says: τὸ λεγόμενον, οἶνος ἄνευ τε παίδων καὶ μετὰ παίδων ἦν ἀληθής ; "there is, as the proverb says, truth in wine - whether one adds "and in children" is of no significance" (tr. W.Hamilton). The first of these is best known nowadays in its Latin form, in vino veritas (Tosi [cited under alpha 378] no.1424); and for the latter cf. our "out of the mouths of babes and sucklings".
[2] See the note to beta 351.
Keywords: children; Christianity; daily life; dreams; ethics; food; imagery; philosophy; poetry; proverbs
Translated by: William Hutton on 15 November 2000@16:03:59.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (added note and keywords; minor cosmetics) on 30 March 2001@08:06:53.
David Whitehead (another note) on 5 May 2004@09:16:01.
David Whitehead (more keywords) on 30 September 2005@08:55:38.
David Whitehead (another keyword) on 6 October 2005@10:16:31.
David Whitehead (expanded n.1) on 17 August 2012@04:06:34.
David Whitehead (expanded n.1; more keywords; tweaking) on 7 August 2013@06:31:47.
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