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Headword: *ou)de\n ma=llon
Adler number: omicron,802
Translated headword: no more (this than that)
Vetting Status: high
The Sceptics, that is the Pyrrhonists, while overturning all the dogmas of the schools, for themselves declare nothing dogmatically. To display their deliberateness they explain the assertions [of other thinkers], just as it would be possible for those to do who accepted [the assertions]. By means of no determined utterance[2] they show a situation of equilibrium; and similarly too, by means of the utterance "no more [this than that]" and the utterance "an argument can be opposed to every argument", and similar utterances. Now the expression "no more [this than that]" can also be said positively, insofar as some things are similar. For instance, "the pirate is no worse than the liar". But this is said negatively by the Sceptics, not positively, as when one refutes someone by saying "Scylla no more has existed than has the Chimera". And the same expression "more than" [to\ ma=llon] sometimes is used comparatively, as when we say "honey is sweeter than grapes". And sometimes the expression "more than" is used both positively and negatively, as when we say "virtue benefits more than it harms". For we mean that virtue benefits and that it does not harm. However, the Sceptics also deny the very utterance "no more [this than that]", for just as providence is no more than it is not, so too the expression "no more [this than that]" is no more than it is not. Therefore, the utterance ["no more this than that"] means to determine nothing and to refuse to give assent.[3] And the utterance "an argument can be opposed to every argument" also concludes with suspension of judgement [e)poxh/].[4] For when the things are controversial but the arguments have equal force, ignorance of truth follows. There are ten modes, according to which the foundations [of something] were declared to contain some variation.[5]
Greek Original:
*ou)de\n ma=llon: o(/ti oi( *skeptikoi/, toute/stin oi( *purrw/neioi, ta\ tw=n ai(re/sewn do/gmata pa/nta a)natre/pontes au)toi\ ou)de\n a)pofai/nontai dogmatikw=s: prosfe/rontai de\ a)pofa/seis ei)s mh/nusin th=s a)proptwsi/as, w(s ei) kai\ neu/santas tou=to e)nede/xeto dhlw=sai. dia\ th=s ou)de\n o(rizome/nhs fwnh=s to\ th=s a)reyi/as pa/qos dhlou=tai: o(moi/ws de\ kai\ dia\ th=s, ou)de\n ma=llon, kai\ th=s, panti\ lo/gw| lo/gos a)nti/keitai, kai\ tai=s o(moi/ais. le/getai de\ to\ ou)de\n ma=llon qetikw=s, w(s o(moi/wn tinw=n o)/ntwn: oi(=on, ou)qe\n ma=llon o( peirath\s kako/s e)stin h)\ o( yeu/sths. u(po\ de\ tw=n *skeptikw=n ou) qetikw=s, a)ll' a)nairetikw=s le/getai: w(s u(po\ tou= a)naskeua/zontos kai\ le/gontos, ou) ma=llon h( *sku/lla ge/gonen h)\ *xi/maira. au)to\ de\ to\ ma=llon pote\ me\n sugkritikw=s e)kfe/retai: w(s o(/tan fw=men, ma=llon to\ me/li gluku\ h)\ th\n stafi/da: pote\ de\ qetikw=s kai\ a)nairetikw=s: w(s o(/tan le/gwmen, ma=llon h( a)reth\ w)felei= h)\ bla/ptei. shmai/nomen ga/r, o(/ti h( a)reth\ w)felei=, bla/ptei d' ou)/. a)nairou=si d' oi( *skeptikoi\ kai\ au)th\n th\n ou)de\n ma=llon fwnh/n: w(s ga/r, ou) ma=llo/n e)sti pro/noia, h)\ ou)k e)/sti: ou(/tw kai\ to/, ou)de\n ma=llon e)/stin, h)\ ou)k e)/sti. shmai/nei ou)=n h( fwnh\ to\ mhde\n o(ri/zein, a)ll' a)prosqetei=n. h( de\ panti\ lo/gw| fwnh\ kai\ au)th\ suna/gei th\n e)poxh/n. tw=n me\n ga\r pragma/twn diafwnou/ntwn, tw=n de\ lo/gwn i)sosqenou/ntwn, a)gnwsi/a th=s a)lhqei/as e)pakolouqei=. ei)si\ de/ka tro/poi, kaq' ou(\s ta\ u(perkei/mena paralla/ttonta a)pefai/neto.
This entry reproduces (with some minor but representative changes) Diogenes Laertius 9.74-76. See also already mu 115.
[2] Diog.Laert. has "we determine nothing" (ou)de\n o(ri/zomen).
[3] This assertion is attributed to the Pyrrhonist Timon of Phlius (320-230 BCE), and it would have been included in his work Pytho (see Diog.Laert. 9.76).
[4] Or "withholding of assent".
[5] The sceptic modes are manners of introducing suspension of judgement (Annas & Barnes, 1985, 19-30). They are listed by Sextus Empiricus (Outlines of Pyrrhonism 1.36-38; I follow Annas & Barnes translation in their 1985): (1) the mode depending on the variations among animals; (2) the mode depending on the differences among humans; (3) the mode depending on the differing constitutions of the sense-organs; (4) that depending on circumstances; (5) that depending on positions and intervals and places; (6) that depending on admixtures; (7) that depending on the quantities and preparation of existing things; (8) that deriving from relativity; (9) that depending on frequent or rare encounters; and (10) that depending on lifestyle and customs and laws. These modes are partially accounted for both in Sextus (Outlines 1.40-163) and Diog.Laert. 9.79-88. All these passages (plus some important ones in Philo of Alexandria, 25 BC-50 AD) are translated and commented on in Annas & Barnes 1985. An excellent and complete introduction to ancient scepticism can be found in Mates, 1996, 4-85.
J. Annas & J. Barnes, The Modes of Scepticism. Ancient Texts and Modern Interpretation (Cambridge/London/New York/New Rochelle/Melbourne/Sydney: Cambridge University Press), 1985
B. Mates, The Skeptic Way. Sextus Empiricus's Outlines of Pyrrhonism (New York/Oxford: Oxford University Press), 1996
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Translated by: Marcelo Boeri on 5 May 2000@15:56:31.
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