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Headword: *karikh=| *mou/sh|
Adler number: kappa,388
Translated headword: with a Carian muse
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
[Meaning] with a mournful [song].[1] For the Carians seem to be a kind of dirge-singers and to mourn the dead of others for payment. But some understood [Plato to mean] in a non-Greek and obscure language; because the Carians speak a barbarian [i.e. non-Greek] language.[2]
And [there is] a proverb: 'a Carian story'.
[It is said] that a fisherman having seen an octopus during winter, said, "if I do not dive, I shall be hungry."[3]
Greek Original:
*karikh=| *mou/sh|: th=| qrhnw/dei. dokou=si ga\r oi( *ka=res qrhnw|doi/ tines ei)=nai kai\ a)llotri/ous nekrou\s e)pi\ misqw=| qrhnei=n. tine\s de\ e)ch/kousan th=| barba/rw| kai\ a)safei=: e)peidh\ oi( *ka=res barbaro/fwnoi. kai\ paroimi/a *kariko\s ai)=nos. o(/ti a(lieu\s i)dw\n e)n xeimw=ni polu/poun ei)=pen: ei) mh\ kolumbh/sw, peinh/sw.
Notes:
[1] Headword phrase in the dative singular, from the passage discussed below. [Translation and notes submitted by Claude Desplanques.]
[2] Also in Photius (Lexicon kappa196); from a scholion on Plato, Laws 7.800E (web address 1). For "barbarian-speaking Carians," see Homer, Iliad 2.867.
[3] cf. Macarius Chrysocephalus [metropolitan of Philadelphia, 1336-82], Proverbs 5.9: *ka/rios ai)=nos: e)pi\ tw=n a)porou/ntwn ti diapra/casqai: a(lie/a ga/r fasi trofh=s a)porou=nta xeimw=ni ei)pei=n: *kolumbh/sw, a)lla\ r(igh/sw: mh\ kolumbh/sw, a)lla\ peina/sw; "Carian story: in reference to those who are uncertain what to do: for they say that the fisherman who needs food in winter says 'if I dive I shall be cold, if I do not dive I shall be hungry'."
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Keywords: daily life; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; economics; ethics; food; geography; meter and music; philosophy; proverbs; religion; zoology
Translated by: Catharine Roth on 13 February 2008@19:41:48.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (more keywords; cosmetics) on 14 February 2008@03:12:29.
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