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Headword: Dialektikê
Adler number: delta,627
Translated headword: dialectic
Vetting Status: high
[Meaning] the demonstrative [art].[1]
"[He] having grasped little of dialectic."[2]
Dialectic is knowledge of true things and of false things and of things which are neither [true nor false]. It is about signifiers and things signified.[3] Or in this way: a syllogistic method through opinions concerning all that is put forward. It is called dialectic from conversing [dialegesthai]; and conversing [consists] in both asking questions and answering.[4]
Dialektos: look under 'language' [glotta];[5] and look under 'exercise [gymnasia].[6] Dialectic differs from rhetoric. Look also under 'discursive reasonings' [diexodikous].[7]
A Dialogue is an argument composed out of questioning and answering about some one thing discussed by the philosophers, or some one thing discussed by the politicians, about appropriate sketching [of] characters from adopted perspectives, and about a style of speaking. Dialectic is a skill of words, through which we refute and construct arguments by questioning and answering those conversing. There are two characters of Platonic argument, the ones below:[8]
One that guides and one that enquires. The one that guides divides into theoretical and practical. The theoretical [kind divides] into the natural world and the logical. The practical [kind divides] into the ethical and the political. And there are 2 characters of arguments the enquiring [kind]: training and competitive. And of the competitive: demonstrative and refutative. Some divide them otherwise: into dramatic, narrative, mixed. But these people divide more like a tragedian than a philosopher. An argument that is not a dialogue is called an argument narrated in the first person.[9]
Greek Original:
Dialektikê: hê apodeiktikê. oliga dialektikês hapsamenos. Dialektikê estin epistêmê alêthôn kai pseudôn kai oudeterôn. tunchanei d' autê epi sêmainonta kai sêmainomena. ê houtôs, methodos di' endoxôn peri pantos tou prokeimenou sullogistikê. kaleitai de dialektikê apo tou dialegesthai: to de dialegesthai en erôtêsei te kai apokrisei. Dialektos: zêtei en tôi glôtta: kai zêtei en tôi gumnasia. hoti diapherei hê dialektikê tês rhêtorikês. kai zêtei en tôi diexodikous. hoti Dialogos logos ex erôtêseôs kai apokriseôs sunkeimenos, peri tinos tôn philosophoumenôn kai politikôn meta tês prepousês êthopoiïas tôn paralambanomenôn prosôpôn kai tês kata tên lexin kataskeuês. dialektikê de esti technê logôn, di' hês anaskeuazomen ti ê kataskeuazomen ex erôtêseôs kai apokriseôs tôn prosdialegomenôn. tou dê logou tou Platônos duo eisi charaktêres, hoi anôtatô. ho huphêgêtikos kai ho zêtêtikos. diaireitai de ho huphêgêtikos eis theôrêmatikon kai praktikon. kai ho theôrêmatikos de ho de praktikos eis to phusikon kai logikon. eis to êthikon kai politikon. hoti kai tou zêtêtikou b# eisi charaktêres. gumnastikos kai agônistikos. kai tou agônistikou endeiktikos kai anatreptikos. hoi de allôs diairousin: eis dramatikon diêgêmatikon mikton. all' houtoi tragikôs mallon ê philosophôs diairousin. ho de mê ôn dialogos autodiêgêtos legetai logos.
[1] Likewise in ps.-Zonaras (who omits the ensuing quotation -- see next note -- and proceeds without a break to the Suda's third paragraph).
[2] Damascius, Life of Isidore fr. 356 Zintzen (223 Asmus); cf. alpha 278, epsilon 1929.
[3] cf. Diogenes Laertius 7.42-43. This definition of dialectic (in its shorter version “the knowledge of what is true and false”: Cicero, Academica 2.91) is frequently ascribed to the Stoic Posidonius (Diogenes Laertius 7.62). The distinction between “signifiers” (or "utterances"; see Diogenes Laertius 7.43) and “things signified” (or "sayables"; lekta) belongs to Chrysippus (Diogenes Laertius 7.62). On this issue see Long 1978: especially 103-105; and for the Stoic notion of lekton, Frede 1994.
[4] Alexander of Aphrodiasias, Commentaries on Aristotle's Topica 3.5-9.
[5] gamma 302.
[6] gamma 479.
[7] delta 930.
[8] Here Adler prints, from the mss, a diagrammatic scheme of what follows (as far as 'mixed').
[9] Diogenes Laertius 3.48-50.
Frede, M., “The Stoic Notion of a lekton”, in S. Everson (ed.) Language. Companions to Ancient Thought 3, Cambridge 1994, pp. 109-128
Long, A.A. “Dialectic and the Stoic Sage”, in J. Rist (ed.), The Stoics, Berkeley-Los Angeles-London 1978, 101-124 (reprinted in A.A. Long, Stoic Studies, Cambridge 1996, pp. 85-106
Keywords: biography; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; ethics; philosophy; politics; rhetoric
Translated by: Rachel Price on 2 May 2002@05:55:27.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (modified translation; added notes and keywords; cosmetics) on 2 May 2002@08:26:16.
Marcelo Boeri (Modified translation; expanded note; added bibliography.) on 20 August 2002@11:43:16.
David Whitehead (another keyword; cosmetics) on 20 November 2005@09:28:10.
Catharine Roth (adjusted note numbers) on 24 December 2005@18:22:48.
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