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Headword: Tolmêsai
Adler number: tau,743
Translated headword: to dare, to submit
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
[Meaning] to endure.[1] [In book] 9 of Laws [Plato writes]: "if someone kills [his] father, [that] he must endure this, suffering by force at the hands of [his] children."[2] And in [book] 2 [he writes] "that he dare," instead of that he endure daring.[3]
And Aristophanes [writes]: "o you foul man and rash and shameless, and foul and all-foul and most foul, how have you come here, o most foul of all foul men?"[4]
Greek Original:
Tolmêsai: hupomeinai. Nomôn th#: ei patera apokteinei tis, auton touton hupo teknôn tolmêsai biai paschonta. kai en b# tolmôn, anti tou tolmôn hupomenoi. kai Aristophanês: ô miare kai tolmêre kanaischunte su, kai miare kai pammiare kai miarôtate, pôs deur' anêlthes, ô miarôn miarôtate;
Notes:
[1] The headword is aorist active infinitive of tolma/w. For the glossing cf. generally tau 741.
[2] Plato, Laws 872E (which has neuter tou=to, not masculine tou=ton, and present tense a)poktei/nei instead of Plato's imperfect or aorist a)pe/kteinen: see web address 1).
[3] Taken to refer to Plato, Laws 661A (where however the verb is tolmw=| as an optative, not the Suda's participle. Porson's edition of Photius reads tolmw=, but Theodoridis notes Naber's correction to the optative). Up to this point, the entry = Photius, Lexicon tau363, where other references are cited for the initial glossing.
[4] An approximation of Aristophanes, Peace 182-4 (web address 2), quoted here to illustrate the adjective tolmhro/s (tau 742) rather than the headword verb; cf. mu 1027.
Associated internet addresses:
Web address 1,
Web address 2
Keywords: children; comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; ethics; law; philosophy
Translated by: Catharine Roth on 20 January 2014@23:44:29.
Vetted by:
Catharine Roth on 21 January 2014@01:17:56.
Catharine Roth on 21 January 2014@22:47:21.
David Whitehead (expansions to notes; more keywords; tweaks and cosmetics) on 22 January 2014@03:16:12.
David Whitehead (coding) on 29 May 2016@04:12:15.
Catharine Roth (tweaked note) on 10 September 2022@00:50:05.

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