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Headword: Erôtêsis endoxos
Adler number: epsilon,3074
Translated headword: probable question
Vetting Status: high
Translation:
[Reputable question,] dialectical premise.[1] Now not every premise [is] a question but the dialectical [premise sc. is]. Not every question [is] a dialectical premise, for there are many kinds of question. For those who ask a question ask either about something which is accidental (such as those who ask what is the natural movement of fire or what has happened to Socrates) or, on the contrary, they define and assume in their questioning what has happened [is accidental] and seek to learn to whom [or to what] it has happened: such as the one who asks to what animal it is accidental [to be] white or black, and what good thing is choiceworthy in itself, and who is [the person] seated. And there is another kind of question [which is] about substance;[2] for instance, when [we are investigating something] and bringing forward what it is through a question, someone who is asking says what a flower is.[3] For he seeks to learn the substance of the thing, not what is accidental to it. There is a third kind of question; for example, when someone [asks] a question about a premise, then,[4] in demanding an answer, he responds with the other part of the contradictory premise. For instance, “[is] the world spherical?”[5] The dialectical premise is ranged under this kind of question.
Question, proposition, [and] enquiry are different. Search under the [entry] "proposition" [a)ci/wma].[6] Search Aristophanes’ interrogations, under the [entry] "if he should endure the sufferings which he inflicted".[7]
Greek Original:
Erôtêsis endoxos, protasis dialektikê. ou pasa oun protasis erôtêsis, alla hê dialektikê: ou pasa erôtêsis protasis dialektikê: esti gar eidê pleiô tês erôtêseôs. hoi gar erôtôntes ê peri sumbebêkotos erôtôsin, hôs hoi erôtôntes, tis tou puros hê kata phusin kinêsis, ê ti Sôkratei sumbebêken, ê empalin to men sumbebêkos horizousi te kai lambanousin en têi erôtêsei, to de hôi sumbebêken, axiousi mathein: hôs ho erôtôn tini to leukon ê to melan tôn zôiôn sumbebêke, kai ti tôn agathôn di' hauto haireton esti, kai tis ho kathêmenos. esti de kai allo eidos erôtêseôs ek periousias, hotan proenenkamenoi ti pote esti to dia tês erôtêseôs, eipêi ho erôtôn ti estin anthos: tên gar ousian tou pragmatos axioi mathein, ouch ho sumbebêken autôi. triton eidos erôtêseôs estin, hoion hotan peri protaseôs tis tên erôtêsin, eite apokrisin aitôn to heteron meros tês antiphaseôs eipêi: hoion ara ge ho kosmos sphairoeidês; hupo touto to eidos tês erôtêseôs estin hê dialektikê protasis. diapherei de erôtêma, axiôma, pusma. kai zêtei en tôi axiôma. zêtei erôtêmatika Aristophanous en tôi, aike pathoi ta k' erexen.
Notes:
Taken (with some variations) from Alexander of Aphrodisias, Commentaries on Aristotle's Topica 69.12-29 (on Topica 104a8ff).
[1] Aristotle, Topica 104a8-9.
[2] The translation follows Alexander's text, which reads peri\ ou)si/as, "on substance" (this reading gives a better sense and is required by the context; cf. Alexander 69.23). The Suda text mistakenly reads e)k periousi/as "superfluously".
[3] So the Suda mss, a)/nqos; but (as Adler noted) Alexander has "a man" (a)/nqrwpos).
[4] Again Alexander's text is followed (ei)=ta).
[5] Technically, this is a "premise" (pro/tasis). See Aristotle, Topica 101b30-31 (and pi 2863).
[6] alpha 2827.
[7] alphaiota 165.
Keywords: comedy; definition; dialects, grammar, and etymology; philosophy; rhetoric
Translated by: Marcelo Boeri on 30 November 2003@15:41:17.
Vetted by:
David Whitehead (modified aspects of translation; added a keyword; cosmetics) on 1 December 2003@03:47:57.
David Whitehead (another note) on 24 December 2007@08:01:41.
David Whitehead (cosmetics) on 29 October 2012@06:48:09.
David Whitehead (coding and other cosmetics) on 14 February 2016@07:36:39.
Catharine Roth (tweaked translation) on 22 December 2017@23:27:40.

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