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Headword: *kinhsi/as
Adler number: kappa,1639
Translated headword: Kinesias, Cinesias
Vetting Status: high
A proper name. This man had become notorious for impiety[1] and lawlessness.[2] He was a dithyrambic poet.
Greek Original:
*kinhsi/as: o)/noma ku/rion. ou(=tos e)p' a)sebei/a| kai\ paranomi/a| dieteqru/llhto. h)=n de\ diqurambopoio/s.
After the opening generic gloss, this entry savagely abridges Harpokration s.v. (generated by Lysias fr. 142 Sauppe, now 196 Carey OCT: two speeches In Reply to Kinesias). See further at phi 459.
Kinesias, son of Meles (c.450-390); PA 8438; LGPN ii [Attica] s.v. no.2; OCD(4) s.v. Cinesias. See delta 1029 and references for his place in the "new dithyramb" and for the attacks of the comic playwrights on him as "chorus-killer". He appears as a character in Aristophanes, Birds 1373-1409 (with citations and pastiches of his work), and perhaps also at Lysistrata 829-953 (where a character Kinesias is frustrated by his wife Myrrhine). But J. Henderson at p. 174 of his Lysistrata edition (Oxford 1987) flatly denies this identification, instead taking Kinesias there as a significant name from its etymological root kinei=n (LSJ II 4: web address 1) = binei=n (notes ad 838, 852, cf. scholia).
[1] This charge arose from an incident, mocked by Aristophanes (Ecclesiazuse 329-30), when K. fouled the Hecataea during a dithyrambic performance (tau 693, kappa 822).
[2] According to a long fragment of Lysias -- most recently 195 Carey OCT -- quoted in Athenaeus, Deipnosophists 12.551D-552B (12.76 Kaibel) Kinesias was a member of a club known as the devil-worshippers, kakodaimonistai/. See E.R. Dodds, The Greeks and the Irrational (Berkeley: U. California Press, 1951) 188-189.
Maas, P. Kinesias in RE 11,1 cols.479-480
Pickard-Cambridge, A.W. Dithyramb, Tragedy and Comedy, 2nd (rev.) ed. pp.44-45
Associated internet address:
Web address 1
Keywords: biography; comedy; dialects, grammar, and etymology; ethics; history; meter and music; poetry; religion; rhetoric
Translated by: David Whitehead on 20 July 2001@10:35:11.
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Tony Natoli (Modified translation, added notes and bibliography.) on 23 October 2001@18:23:32.
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Robert Dyer (Added note 1 and other references to Aristophanes. Added refs to other Suda entries. Added keyword.) on 19 November 2001@04:32:56.
Robert Dyer (modified note on Lysistrata thanks to editor Carl Anderson pointing out Henderson's note) on 8 January 2002@08:22:49.
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